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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: comic on the home page or not? Reply with quote

Is it a good practice to have the most recent comic in front?
I have noticed several webcomics that have a blog of the most recent updates on the home page with a link to the current comic.
I'm debating whether I should keep the current system or switch to the blog idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally prefer comics where the latest page is clearly visible. The exception to this would be comics like Phoenix Requiem, which have two or more pages per update, because you don't want to read ahead and it can get confusing. In pretty much all other cases I can think of right now, though, comic on the front page is my preference. I'm starting to get annoyed with comics that don't do that, actually. Unless the update in question might be spoilerific for readers who have missed a few updates, a splash page isn't necessary but it can be annoying.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you prefer a blog then consider including an art sample up front, maybe part of the blog header?

And also make sure the link/button for your comic is obvious so readers don't need to play guessing games.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: comic on the home page or not? Reply with quote

bunnypandemic wrote:

I have noticed several webcomics that have a blog of the most recent updates on the home page with a link to the current comic.


Yes, and they are all annoying and this includes Penny Arcade. If someone thinks that their random news and snippets of life are more fascinating than their comic (and they are almost universally wrong about this), why don't they just forget the comic and write a blog?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KEZ wrote:
Disagreeing with EVERYONE here, and saying that it depends. But, if you decide NOT to have it on your homepage, you had better have a really, REALLY good reason.

Informative article as always, Kez. Indeed, multiple comics linked from a hub page is a good reason. Works OK for me anyway, new visitors seem to bounce around from site to site, possibly due to concussion, then settle on/bookmark the comic they like most and return to.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly two reasons will I tolerate.
-Hub to several comics.
-Multiple pages in one update. (Just merge them into one page, dangnabit! Not that I follow PR anyway.)
-Longform comic worrying about spoilers. Now, I myself have a longform comic and I'd rather people see the present art because I feel if they click first and see the crappy early art they might leave. Laughing


In general, it's almost always better to have your comic on the front page, one of the first things people will see, because it's your product.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a splash page for one of my comics, but it's a content warning I'd feel more comfy keeping in place (especially on my host). After all, at some point the unsuspecting reader may be flashed with some generally not-work-safe things.

Even then, I didn't have my comics on the front pages in any form until about a month or so ago because they'd break my layouts, among other things. Once I found a workaround, however, I slapped 'em on there. People like that. Before I just had very large thumbnails at the top of the pages leading to the latest comics, but now automatically-generated and slightly smaller versions of the comics that will fit in the layout no matter what helps me update the site and helps the reader read. Very Happy

Now, with the nature of long form stories on the web, this means the reader will have to back-read at some point (if I ever do multi-page updates), and the new reader will risk being "spoiled" upon seeing the front page. But this is the risk you take - I'd rather do that, too, as a spoiler can very well draw someone new in, and besides, what did you really expect?

On that note, I've never been actually spoiled for a story webcomic that had its recent comic on the front page. Probably because I don't actually read it if I want to start the comic from the beginning. :B

Now, those comics with blogs on the front and links to the most recent comic that are barely noticeable (and certainly less so than the blog) annoy me, because they could very easily have the comic on the front page most of the time. It wouldn't break their layout - it wouldn't cause spoilers - and so on. As far as that goes I've seen veeeery few good excuses in practice. I came to read a comic, not news posts (I'll do that afterwards).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.o ok. almost everyone voted homepage, but what about this:
suppose I put a picture of the entire cast and a brief plot description first followed by the blog updates.
The thing is I also would like to have an emphasis on the poetry/short story part of the site and no one atuallyh visits those pages.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's empty space? I think that was most likely caused by the intensedebate comment boxes. I still can't exactly find a solution.
I could try to remake the navigation. Is a horizontal or vertical navigation system better?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bunnypandemic wrote:

The thing is I also would like to have an emphasis on the poetry/short story part of the site and no one atuallyh visits those pages.


Short stories and comics generally have a different audience. I'm not sure that trying to cater to a bunch of different audiences on the same page is going to be very successful for you. In general, if I'm looking to read stories or poetry I'll go to a site dedicated to them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input everyone. ^^
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You've got a lot of empty space on the website. If it's the other parts of the site you want people to check out, then I'd suggest scrapping the nav bar and rebuilding it so the text links/buttons are larger. Or maybe calling out stuff along the right side of the page, which is practially empty at the moment.

moon, what did you mean by this? On my screen, it looks fine without the empty space and the links are pretty big
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There used to be some comics I followed that didn't have their comic on the front page. So I just bookmarked the page that did have the latest comic, instead of their front page. Silly webcomic authors trying to slow me down, take that! : D
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