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chasecorbeau



Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:58 am    Post subject: Project Wonderful Ban List Reply with quote

Okay, apparently there's some malware from ads going around, and some of us (Xylia + moi) are trying to find the mysterious culprit, since a couple of users said bad things were coming from ads on our sites.

Since it COULD be coming from someone on Project Wonderful (we're not sure yet), I'm looking for suspicious users to ban. I just killed off this guy: https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=17014 for having a site promoting some porno desktop thing that puts spyware on your computer.

I banned these guys too, though I don't remember why:
https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=12183
https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=11579

I think one of them had photos of a girl's butt as his ad.

Who's on your ban list?
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KEZ



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have banned one of the ones you've listed above (belonging to a "Rado Maric") and also:

https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=8204


For geeky girl porn. Or was it porn for geeky girls? I dun really know.
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wendyw
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems like a useful topic, so to stop it from disappearing and being duplicated hundreds of times consider it stickied.
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Beertycoon
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KEZ wrote:
I have banned one of the ones you've listed above (belonging to a "Rado Maric") and also:

https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=8204


For geeky girl porn. Or was it porn for geeky girls? I dun really know.


haha, just checked out that site (at work, I'm such a bad boy muHAhahAHa) it's filled with geek girls posing naked and turned into Magic: The Gathering cards..
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Miluette



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only ever banned one person, 'cause they used a big ad that I thought was kinda ugh and it showed up a few times on Millennium's site. I'd be okay with it showing up on LF's (although it's still ugh), but apparently you can't just ban them from selective ad banners. And it never did show up on LF, imagine that.

Gonna be safe with these other guys listed. B&!

(For the record, it was No Reason I'd banned. Their skyscraper ad, or the one I saw, REALLY stands out. In ways I didn't like so much for my for-everyone fantasy webcomic. It's not bad in any other way, though. I don't even know what the site is like.)
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mirz



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chasecorbeau wrote:
Okay, apparently there's some malware from ads going around, and some of us (Xylia + moi) are trying to find the mysterious culprit, since a couple of users said bad things were coming from ads on our sites.

Since it COULD be coming from someone on Project Wonderful (we're not sure yet), I'm looking for suspicious users to ban. I just killed off this guy: https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=17014 for having a site promoting some porno desktop thing that puts spyware on your computer.


Not trying to derail this thread, but I am actually glad to hear that. It means I'm not crazy. I was visiting a new comic yesterday (not yours), and I got something VERY nasty. I did have a few windows open, but was confident it was the comic because my machine started crashing badly after that. Anyhow, I could barely do anything or shut-down after that. It was my work computer too, so not good. Anyhow, my husband came in and it took him 4 hours to clean it up today. I don't know what ad it was, but I did write the siteowner but have not gotten a response.

Anyhow, adding my own experience here in case it helps you pin it down to PW, since I am sure it was from an ad on the webcomic. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name of the comic since I clicked off PDQ after things started blitzing.

I'll tell you, that shit's not good. Would make people wary at visiting new comics in the future! I'll tell you, I won't be back to that one just in case.
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chasecorbeau



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, as far as I can tell, there is no evidence that Project Wonderful or anything else on my site was the source of whatever happened. The consensus from a few coders was that the person who went to Xylia's site probably got the problem from somewhere else and panicked. However, I can't vouch for whatever Keenspot does with their ads, so I make no promises that they weren't at fault. I'm 99.999% sure that my site was pointed out erroneously.
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mooncity
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another reason I don't want ads on my site!
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tbowl
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have too many to list, but my comic is family friendly for most families supposed to be safe for work, and every time i turned around it was an ass only covered by a thong, prego women with barely covered breasts oozing milk, giant barely covered boobs, and variants / combinations of all of the above.

So now I only do buttons and one 468x60 and I haven't had a problem in ages...
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Zaron



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ban this account:
https://www.projectwonderful.com/viewprofile.php?id=8102

Why? Here's why:
http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=58024&n=BLADETREEPARTYHARD.swf&w=550&h=400

Fucking gigantic banner farm. Nothing there is going to get any clicks.
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DOUK



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Project Wonderful Ban List Reply with quote

chasecorbeau wrote:

I banned these guys too, though I don't remember why:


Ahahaha that cheered me up today Cool
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smbhax.com
No! Don't post it there!


Joined: 10 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an advertiser running leaderboard campaigns, I've found I have to start banning publishers who put their leaderboard ad spaces at the bottom of their page layouts--the campaign automated bidding can't tell that on its own, so if you aren't careful, your campaign will end up wasting all its money on buying large ad spaces way down at the bottom of pages. Bleh.

Initially I was just clicking the "remove ad space from campaign" function for those, but it doesn't seem like you can migrate those removed spaces from one campaign to another (can you? anyone know?), so I've had to go with just banning the publisher, which permanently prevents my campaigns from bidding on their site.

Looking ahead to the day I'll start selling [out!] ad space on my own site, I had been planning to go with a nice simple two-leaderboard scheme, one at the top and one at the bottom, but based on my own experience as an advertiser, I just can't do that now--the bottom one just wouldn't be fair; they're called leaderboards, people, not...followerboards? I'll just do a row of buttons or something at the bottom instead.

I suppose the real lesson here is not to do campaigns for large ad spaces like leaderboards...but campaigns are so fun, I just can't help myself. :o
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smbhax.com
No! Don't post it there!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mini rant warning! :o

Pursuant to the above post, after doing a thorough check through the hundreds of bids my four current PW ad campaigns have placed recently, I'm sorry to say that I've had to ban a number of ad publishers whom I otherwise know or respect as users on this forum, because they're selling large ad spaces (leaderboards, skyscrapers, banners) far down their page, well below the bottom of their actual comic, where hardly anyone will ever see them.

This means that those ad spaces are really only worth a fraction of what their value should be for the amount of traffic the site is getting. Unless your site is so hugely popular (and you'd know if it was) that even your worst ad spaces will be filled up by hand-placed bids, then those horribly placed ad spaces will be filled up by automated campaign bids, where the buyer has no idea that their campaign is buying a space that nobody's going to see and click on.

This means that you are essentially screwing over your fellow webcomic authors in very real, monetary terms.

Not cool.

If you're doing that, then chances are very good that you are now on my ban list and will never be getting ad revenue from me again. But don't worry, there are plenty of other sucker webcomic authors out there from whom you can continue to leech money.

/end not-so-mini-after-all rant :p
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Metruis
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I check the site before placing a bid to see where the adbox is placed, I never run campaigns for that reason. But I do consider my fellow webcomickers and all of my adspaces are right beside the comic and or news. Cool

I haven't banned anyone yet. Maybe I'm too nice...
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smbhax.com
No! Don't post it there!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of comics place ads down in the news area, and all I can say based on statistically insignificant data from my own ad performance in those areas is that only a very, very small percentage of comic readers actually look down in those areas; either that or the ones who do look down there are more discriminating, and much less likely to click on ads.

In any case for my ads, the off-the-first-visible-screen news area (or any other area not immediately visible next to the comic, for that matter) has been a bad place to be.
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