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jdalton · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:15 am Post subject:

hitmen wrote:

I think it’s virtually impossible to get the same visceral thrill from a comic action sequence as one can get from a good movie action sequence, and I don’t try for that.

Strongly disagree. As evidence, I put forward one Mr. Katsuhiro Otomo.

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jbrown · Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 77

I also disagree. The car chase at the end of Battle Royale manga was beyond any other action scene I've seen in a comic.

It's all a matter of pacing and layout.
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james113 · Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 42

All actions have two points of most expression:

In (point of biggest wind up)

and

Out (result)

In the comic page:

"Kiyaaa!"

and

Poum!

plughead · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:41 am Post subject:

jbrown wrote:

The car chase at the end of Battle Royale manga

Hey jbrown, do you have linkage/pics?

I plan to do a SICK car chase later in the SZ story, and I'd really like to see what some of the better ones have done.
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hitmen · Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 60

jdalton wrote:

Strongly disagree. As evidence, I put forward one Mr. Katsuhiro Otomo.

I don't feel anything looking at that page.
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Doogl McDoog · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:21 am Post subject:

hitmen · Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 60

The action starts on the next page, but you need that page for context.
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Doogl McDoog · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:42 am Post subject:

hitmen · Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 60

Thanks, but I'm not the first person to use it.
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jdalton · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:41 am Post subject:

hitmen wrote:

I don't feel anything looking at that page.

Then maybe you need to read the 131 pages of action before this page to feel it. And the 2000 pages of action that come after it. Or maybe you're just not trying hard enough.

Comics and film do have one very important difference. Comics are a largely active medium, while film is largely passive. With film you just sit there in front of the screen and the story falls into your brain. With comics you have to use your brain or it won't work. A dog can watch a movie. It can't read a comic.
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james113 · Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 42

Yep, more like a book. Smile

Movies give you everything. Comics can have more depth depending on the reader.

Doogl McDoog · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:12 am Post subject:

plughead · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:21 am Post subject:

Kung Fu Hustle is one of the ultimate action films I've ever seen.

I wish SZ was totally a live action film. I simply can't get my ideas across fully with panels, spreads and type. I really want motion, sound and score to push it to the next level.

jdalton, the above sample you posted, that's from Akira, isn't it?
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james113 · Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 42

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I really want motion, sound and score to push it to the next level.

I would seriously go into storyboarding. Wink

Just draw really rough versions, and then do the music, sfx, and ambient sfx yourself. It's really fun stuff.

It seems like a pretty new movement on Youtube, this whole Animation thing; you may even gain a fanbase.

plughead · Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:58 am Post subject:

No doubt, james113!

I've been a print-based graphic designer for squillions of years, so I'm familiar with Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign, but I just bought the full hardcore max super ultra mega chargeup version of CS4... and I'm teaching myself AfterEffects, Premiere and Flash for the first time ever... very koo stuff.

Someday, SZ may skip formats and become something totally different from what it is now.
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