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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: CISPA has risen from the dead... Reply with quote

...and it has already passed the house. Since most of you here run websites, I'll assume you know what a bad thing this could be. If you don't, check out https://www.eff.org Anyways, this is the front page of my webcomic today:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking into what CISPA does, and I don't like it, but see absolutely nothing in there that gives the government the right to take down webpages.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost put up a notice on my site today, but I decided not to since I haven't researched it enough yet to have a proper judgement on it, and I don't want to deter users from my site by posting uninformed political stances on my page. My webcomic isn't a blog, so unless I'm really informed and it's somehow relevant to the site, I'm not going put something political up.

That doesn't mean I'm not against it though.

One of the problems with this bill is with SOPA, we had the internet giants like Google voicing out against it. Now the list is shorter and this bill is less noticable, so it'll be easier to get through.

The good news is the White House is still threatening to veto the bill in its current form, because of the vague privacy concerns. Hopefully it'll die in the Senate and not get that far though.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marscaleb wrote:
I was looking into what CISPA does, and I don't like it, but see absolutely nothing in there that gives the government the right to take down webpages.


Well, I haven't read the entire bill myself, but according to Reporters Without Borders*, amongst other groups, the bill includes the power to take down websites that fall under a very broad and vague rubric of piracy or IP theft.

*http://en.rsf.org/etats-unis-draconian-cyber-security-bill-06-04-2012,42283.html
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MindChimera wrote:

The good news is the White House is still threatening to veto the bill in its current form, because of the vague privacy concerns.


I could respond with a bitter and snide political commentary, but I'll just stick to more reputable positions and simply say: Judging from history, I'm disinclined to take comfort from that.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marscaleb wrote:
MindChimera wrote:

The good news is the White House is still threatening to veto the bill in its current form, because of the vague privacy concerns.


I could respond with a bitter and snide political commentary, but I'll just stick to more reputable positions and simply say: Judging from history, I'm disinclined to take comfort from that.

Haha, I understand. I'd much rather see it die in the Senate then ever be left to that chance.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether or not you think there is nothing to worry about in a new law, you should probably just be concerned that their making yet another law. That's pretty much where I draw the line these days.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm willing to concede that new laws are occasionally necessary.

But I think the rule ought to be that they must clear an old law off the books before enacting a new one.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CISPA is some dumbass shit, and the upshot of its insanely open language goes beyond potential privacy violations by the government into the realm of undermining a variety of anti-spam and anti-call-list laws by providing protection for websites and companies that share (read that "sell") call lists with their contemporaries.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that aimed at my comment Casual?

I didn't mean that CISPA was necessary, I was just reacting to the suggestion that I ought to be opposed to it because it was a new law.

I'd rather oppose something because it's poorly worded and not well-thought-out.

But I do think that new laws happen a little too often.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't aimed at anything. It was really just my thoughts on CISPA.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes sense. Somehow I thought you had already said how stupid you thought it was, and were repeating yourself for some reason.

I don't know how I got that into my head.

Maybe I was remembering the last time, or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Whether or not you think there is nothing to worry about in a new law, you should probably just be concerned that their making yet another law.


They're...embarrassing.
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