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and another one bites the dust... R.I.P. Comic Hovel?
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ewomack
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I went to the site I saw this at the top: "NOTICE: This domain name expired on 01/23/2013 and is pending renewal or deletion."

That definitely sounds like an end... they seem to be dropping fast.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always sort-of wondered how relevant those websites really were. At least, in my head to readers it doesn't matter so much and it's mostly creators who use them. But perhaps I'm wrong about that.
I suppose the same thing sort-of goes for TWLC, except there's a social element. Look, I'm socialising! All in all, though, I feel like webcomic communities in general do seem to be dying out, and I can't put my finger on why exactly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a site listing there. On the sixteenth I got this email:

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Hello members of ComicHovel.com
We have decided to discontinue support of ComicHovel.com. It would be a good idea to remove vote buttons and anything else linked to comichovel.com in order to avoid having broken links on your page. Thanks for the support you guys have given and in the future we will produce a system much more advanced than comicHovel.com Have a nice year!


So yes, they're gone, though they were nice enough to formalize it at least. I don't think they ever got the traffic/attention they were hoping for; at least, I was usually on the second page of the rankings (#20 or so) but I rarely got more than a click or two every other week from them, whereas on the second page of TWC (#150ish) I'm getting dozens of clickthroughs per week. It's a shame, though. Their site design was much prettier. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it looks like Comic Hovel notified those with accounts that they're going down, which was incredibly considerate. They could have just disappeared.

I agree with those who find comic ranking sites a little uninspiring. I once had 3-4 of their graphics on my homepage and it really started to look junky and cluttered. Not to mention it really only benefits comics that rank in the upper 100s. What message does it send if you post a graphic that ranks your site at #10,012 on a list? Or if your site keeps plummeting? At one point my site hits were increasing while my ranking on some of the list sites actually decreased. What's the point? But of course if your site ranks #1 or even #10 that looks great. Not to mention that those sites are easily gamed by having 100 friends log on and vote in your favor - which I'm sure never happens. In the end, it's really hard to know what such sites measure.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I noticed this site is dead. I need to remind myself to remove their broken link off my site. :/

My comic was burried deep into their archives and haven't got any clicks from there in months. I was rather frustrated with it, because they never reset the votes with every once in a while like other sites do and so, never had the chance to raise in their rank and pimp my comic a lil bit this way.

Comic rank was a pretty cool site though. I could keep track of how many people were actually reading my comic.
I miss OnlineComics too. Got lots of traffic from that site on my old SL days.

What do we have left now, i wonder.

I know Belfry, Piperka, TWC, TWCL, TTWCL, Taversia, Tomgeeks(exclusivist to female cartoonists) and other T-names I can't remember. Rolling Eyes

Yeah, we have lots left. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewomack wrote:
Not to mention that those sites are easily gamed by having 100 friends log on and vote in your favor - which I'm sure never happens.

Pretty sure that *does* happen; the TWC model for instance is pretty much constructed to *be* gamed; quite recently for instance I've seen a site whose PW ad info showed only double-digit daily visitors, but whose TWC rank was in the 100s.

Eve Z. wrote:
I know Belfry, Piperka, TWC, TWCL, TTWCL, Taversia, Tomgeeks(exclusivist to female cartoonists) and other T-names I can't remember. :roll:

Ink Outbreak has been mentioned, and I also want to mention Comic Rocket, which does a smartframe-based-reader thing similar to Ink Outbreak, but in a bit more streamlined fashion.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smbhax.com wrote:
ewomack wrote:
Not to mention that those sites are easily gamed by having 100 friends log on and vote in your favor - which I'm sure never happens.

Pretty sure that *does* happen; the TWC model for instance is pretty much constructed to *be* gamed; quite recently for instance I've seen a site whose PW ad info showed only double-digit daily visitors, but whose TWC rank was in the 100s.


Sorry, I forgot to use sarcasm indicators around "which I'm sure never happens." I should have put a wink or a razz there...

I'm completely positive that this does happen and probably very often. And I'm sadly speaking from experience, but only from one experience. A few years back I had a bunch of friends, some who read my comic and many who didn't, vote for my site on a ranking site that no longer exists (I don't even remember its name). Not too surprisingly, my rank skyrocketed. I soon realized that this gaming didn't benefit me at all because it gave me no idea how many people were actually voting for my site, not to mention that my friends probably weren't willing to repeat this kindness over and over again. It didn't end up doing much for me anyway since the site wasn't all that popular anyway.
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Eve Z.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomgeeks will disappear also? Sad Poopie.

Yeah, I know Ink Outbreak and looks like my site is also on Comic Nation, which is funny because I don't remember ever submitting my comic in there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does onlinecomics.net still take new comics? I submitted mine a week ago and it has not been activated. I always thought that was a good site.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

onlinecomics.net has been effectively dead for years, but it's still standing. I am not surprised about Comic Hovel, since you couldn't even update incentives there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I applied to onlinecomics.net probably about three years ago...and I see I'm still not in there yet. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smbhax.com wrote:
Yeah I applied to onlinecomics.net probably about three years ago...and I see I'm still not in there yet. Wink


Yep, same here. There's old code still chugging away with no one to mind it, but it's sort of like one of those Dwemer ruins in Skyrim... though minus the traps and mechanical guardians.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnK wrote:
Does onlinecomics.net still take new comics? I submitted mine a week ago and it has not been activated. I always thought that was a good site.


Heh. Online Comics. Let me tell you about Online Comics....

The deal there is the site died about the time I was starting up my comic -- so late 2008. But it never admitted to dying, and for about a year people were still getting added sparodically to the index. There was a thread for how long you'd waited, and eventually we figured out what was going on -- every so often, say once a month, one of the admins would check in, approve the top few comics in the queue -- maybe a dozen -- and then knock off again. So the most recently submitted comics would get approved. A few extremely stubborn people (I admit I was one Rolling Eyes) thus started resubmitting their comics every week or so in the hopes of being in the magic, lucky few that got approved when an admin checked in.

I have no idea why I did this; I do still get some good hits from Online Comics, but it took months of resubmitting and it can't possibly have been worth it. For some reason the situation really irritated me and I was dead determined to get a listing up. Too much spare time? Smile At any rate, it was only a month or so afterwards that the admins gave up entirely... I don't believe any new comics have been added since 2009. But people still use the listings, apparently. Someday it'll 404 and that'll be the end of that....
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