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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Old projects revived #2 Reply with quote

Old projects revived: # 2 "Medusa's Mirror - online pdf. Comic-fanzine"

Some years ago I started an online-pdf-fanzine, now I would like to do something similar together with other artists.

I. The basic idea: A free pdf-comic-magazine in the style of Vampirella.
(If you don't know: Vampirella and the two other Warren-magacines recycled the concept of the 1950ies EC-Horror-comics. There was a character who acted as host of the magacine and introduced the stories (usual with a pun.) It was always the same character, but drawn by different artists. In Vampirella there was also a comic added including the host as character.)

II. Details & how would it work:
- The fanzine would be black&white only.
- Each issue would contain works of different artists, a few pages of continuing stories and some gag-a-day-routines.
- I would provide some pages of steampunk gorgon in each issue, as it's heroine would be the hosting character of the magazine.
- The contributed works can be comics that are already available in the internet, so there are no extra costs and not much work for the contributing artists.
- continuing stories would only have e few pages in each issue.
- I would provide webspace for the download, and each artist contributing would put a link to it on his/her webpage. Of course it would be allowed to contributing artist to offer the pdf on the own page.
- For each story, etc. in the magazine would be a drawing of the host Medusa introducing the comic (with a punchline, etc.) These drawings would be done by the artists themselves or by me or other artist.
- The cover could be done by different artists, but it would use the banner I would provide as jpg.


III. Why sould you contribute?
As this is a noncommercial project (if anyone has an idea how to merchandise it, you're welcome!), you will probably earn no money with it (I don't do either.) You don't have to invest any, too, and you could use a comic you already made, so it isn't that much work. But you could reach an other audience in a fanzine with several different artists. And maybe it is just a lot of fun and you meet nice people.

IV. Who can contribute?
First, there are three rules:
1. Black-and-White art only.
2. No stick-art or manga (or imitated manga).
3. No comics made for children or juveniles. This does not mean they should be pornographic or splatter (which isn't that mature at all), but works that would appeal to mature educated readers.

As for the art: The art hasn't to be perfect at all, and nothing is wrong about simple art. But the art should be authentic, meaning it should not look like a (no matter if good or clumsy) imitation of popular stereotypes as presented by Garfield, Peanuts, etc. Real drawings with less digital effects are prefered.
Story: It could be serials, continuing stories, and there should be a page with stripes of simple gags as well. The stories could be classic adventure, political satire, etc.

Some comics from here I could very well imagine with the concept would be Stupid Snake, black&white features of Catnose and Monster Zero; I haven't asked any of these artist yet and I am sure that there are plenty more, but these were the first that came to my mind.

So far the rough idea, and here's the banner.

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DoctorStevehatten



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Greedy, if you are still doing this, I'll participate.

I do a page a week (I have a day job) of my comcis and try to work on side-projects when I can.

I don't know how frequently you plan on this thing coming out, but I'll have a strip to contribute every week.
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was cut from internet for some days now (construction workers cut the cable) and are a bit short of time for the next two month, but the magazine would not be a weekly thing; it is intended as a printable booklet containing works of different artists. (Not complete comic novels, but some pages of longer stories and some single page/ cartoon stuff.) So it would not appear on a regular schedule, but be downloadable as soon as there is enough stuff together for the first issue. Of course your strip should be in black&white (rules) then.
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DoctorStevehatten



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It MOSTLY is. I use some color for accent (and I have few strips that are full-color) but I generally stick to greyscale.

I hope your readers like fart jokes...
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorStevehatten wrote:
It MOSTLY is. I use some color for accent (and I have few strips that are full-color) but I generally stick to greyscale.

I hope your readers like fart jokes...
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As it will be a free downloadable pdf, I have no idea what kind of readers we will have and if they like it, but I don't worry, as the basic idea is to produce something in the style of the 1970ies post-underground magazines who combined the work of multiple artists and styles. If you recall such magazins like Vampirella or Heavy Metal, there where probably some artists and works you loved and some you hated, and that's just allright.
But we will need some more then two artists, I will ask some people whose work I have seen in here when I have a little more time. And, it is nice if the contributurs do their own gorgon-intro. (If not, you might just get one by somebody else.)
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DoctorStevehatten



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgon-intro? You'll have to elaborate on that...

I'll be honest, I'm AWARE of Vampirella, but not FAMILIAR with it. Just let me know how many pages you want. If they have any color, I'll convert them! I can write my own intro, but I'm honestly super curious to see what someone else might say about my strips.

This sounds like a nifty idea, I'm suprised no one has posted in this thread.
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorStevehatten wrote:
Gorgon-intro? You'll have to elaborate on that...

I'll be honest, I'm AWARE of Vampirella, but not FAMILIAR with it. Just let me know how many pages you want. If they have any color, I'll convert them! I can write my own intro, but I'm honestly super curious to see what someone else might say about my strips.


It is actually point I. and II. in the first post. Vampirella and many, many other comics borrowed the idea of the 1950ies E.C. Horrorcomics that introduced some characters who acted as host for the magazine and gave a short introduction of each comic. Vampirella improved this concept by giving the host her own strip. As Medusa Tanis Bava, the heroine of my Steampunk Gorgon-comic is the host of the magazine (Medusa's Mirror), she would introduce each short comic. Of course it is wittier if each artist draws the introduction in his own style. (I admit it would be fun if some other do this for others, too. But I would prefer if not all intros would be done by me.)

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This sounds like a nifty idea, I'm suprised no one has posted in this thread.


Actually, many comics would not fit into the categories I'm asking for (point IV). It is probably the best idea to PM some more artists I'm thinking off.


How many pages per artist? I would think about 3 to maximal 6 pages for excerpts of long, continuing stories (they don't have to start with page one, but should go on chronologic then) and 1 page for single cartoons/jokes.
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DoctorStevehatten



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I was thrown off by the term "gorgon-into." So I just need to make a page a your Medusa character explainging what my strips are. I CAN DO THAT.

I also have this other comic that would probably be more appropriate for the theme of the mag... it's not done yet though, so I'll hold off.
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorStevehatten wrote:
I think I was thrown off by the term "gorgon-into." So I just need to make a page a your Medusa character explainging what my strips are. I CAN DO THAT.

I also have this other comic that would probably be more appropriate for the theme of the mag... it's not done yet though, so I'll hold off.


Fine; I would be interested to see it.
You don't use that much color, i think you could convert your work to greyscale with not that much loss. Sadly some of the comics I think that would fit quite well (The "Snail Factory" for example, or others I like) would be ruined if they loose their color.

Maybe the biggest problem is to find fitting comics and artists. Maybe it is helpful to list some I would really like to add and will ask if I can use some of their pages for the next stage in the project:
Vas Little Crow: Catnose (handdrawn ones)
Iaviv / Stupid Snake
Engine / Enginecomic
Moobyj / Monster Zero is go
Bipolar Billy / Same
Bob Shofield / Another Tower

I don't want to write down artists whose work I do not like. But as a general hint as absolute "no way":
- Pure stickart jokes,
- anything manga-like,
- stories about "cute" manga-fairies that look like paste-and-copy from a teenage browser game,
- sitcom routines based on daily casual life/ soap opera
- stories about teenagers who cry their eyes out because they got the wrong I-phone for birthday
- any "children say the funniest things"
- peanuts/ simpsons/ calvin & hobbes/ garfield/ etc - lookalikes
- videogame-based comics
- comics done with poser or using lots of virtual effects
- comics primaly based on relationship / school/ family
- anything Rap/ Hip Hop/ Skater- related
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap! That other comic that I mentioned working is about teenagers crying because they got the wrong phone!

It's ok; fortunately, I've got an OTHER other comic.
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorStevehatten wrote:
Crap! That other comic that I mentioned working is about teenagers crying because they got the wrong phone!

It's ok; fortunately, I've got an OTHER other comic.


So sorry. But I think I could enjoy a comic about teenagers who cry and rage because their new phone isn't good enough for some days until they are dropped into the northsea on a tiny raft by their parents for a realistic testing situation.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thus turning them into some sort of monstrous nuclear hyper-teen full of rage and hatred for all adult-kind?

Some sort of KLOTZILLA-like phenom for the murky depths of sanity?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorStevehatten wrote:
Thus turning them into some sort of monstrous nuclear hyper-teen full of rage and hatred for all adult-kind?


Umm, this would not change them much from what they already are? Well, most of them are not as bright as a nuke, but do at least that much of damage.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like do to a DOUG parody in which Doug murders people.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorStevehatten wrote:
I would like do to a DOUG parody in which Doug murders people.


I never watched that show, but I think I know what character you mean. What to make out of that idea?

"Doug Nukem" (for plenty of computer-game insider jokes, but that topic is rather shortlived.)

"Doug of New York" (Doug with eyepatch in postapocalyptic city...)

"Strontium Doug" (For some good comic reference. Along with his faithful anthropomorphic dog Woof Sternhammer.)

Sure there is more.
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