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ps99



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: That dont impress them much Reply with quote

I have always produced some sort of cartoon/comic ever since I was a kid. Huge rambling football matches and Cold War epics were the main themes. They were just something I wanted to do - as opposed to actually showing anybody.

Fast forward a few years to adult(ish) me and the realisation that other people might want to see my work. I like to produce the best I can and have worked quite hard at improving. They take seconds to read and yet hours to produce.

So...why does it rankle so much when people close to you have the reaction " are you still doing your little cartoons " or " er,,,that's nice"

Oops out of time ....posting!
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ps99



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's always a mistake to post when emotional! Smile

I think the question might be better framed

" Do some of the people around you totally not get what it is you do - and does it bother you? "
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Fenmere



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always had a mixed bag of responses. I have found that as I've stuck to it and really improved both my writing and my art, even my worst detractors have started giving me compliments. It's take 12 years of relentlessly publishing, though. Still haven't "made it" yet, either.

Something frustrating that I've experienced a lot in the latter half of my comic's career is people who compliment my work and even say it's brilliant still aren't very supportive of it. It can be really hard to break that barrier. Probably so hard that most people don't.

On the other hand, it can be good if your fans are not your family and friends. It might mean that your potential reader base is larger than a handful of people...
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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My family has always been very supportive of my comics work, but it rankles me when people assume that comics = kid stuff. The most common response to my saying, "I am a comic artist" is, "you can't do that for a living" (even though I have,) or "do you do children's books?" When I tell these types, "no," and show them my books, they tend to have a rather rude awakening. I guess no one expects a smiley gray-haired lady to do depressingly violent comics about the fall of the Soviet Union that sometimes teeter dangerously close on the edge of what some people consider pornography. Usually at this point, people hush up about their annoying assumptions.
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Fenmere



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. I've gotta read me some of that!
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DoctorStevehatten



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Hmm Reply with quote

Obviously there are some pros that are the exceptions to the rule... but yeah, that's your family looking out for you. Because they're right.

The vast majority need day jobs, yo.
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Lavenderbard
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vaslittlecrow wrote:
but it rankles me when people assume that comics = kid stuff..


One of my pet peeves also.

And I don't even do stuff that's NSFW.

But, just because it's safe for work, doesn't mean I wrote it for children.
(I'm my own target audience, and I haven't been a kid for a loooooong time now.)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the USA seems to have permanently pigeon-holed comics into "kid's stuff" - I'd like to see a historical study of this, because I'm sure it's for some stupid and shallow reason...
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nsanelilmunky



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think America has pigeon-holed it into 'kids stuff'. If anything, I think they've pigeon-holed it into the 'nerd' hole along with video games, D&D, sci-fi/fantasy movies and bad inter-personal communication skills.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsanelilmunky wrote:
I don't think America has pigeon-holed it into 'kids stuff'. If anything, I think they've pigeon-holed it into the 'nerd' hole along with video games, D&D, sci-fi/fantasy movies and bad inter-personal communication skills.


Yes, same concept different words. Depending on one's perspective, if you read comics or consume fantasy/sci-fi, some people will consider you a "nerd" and others will consider you "immature," meaning that you spend your time with things that some people think only kids should bother with. It's shallow either way.
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Metruis
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What irks me most is the question...

"So why aren't you published yet?"

It took three and a half years for the vast majority of my coworkers to find out that I do art in my spare time. My mom talks about what a great writer I am but hasn't actually read more than like, the first couple chapters of my comic and nothing more recent than that.

And I'm not even a cartoonist!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vulpeslibertas wrote:
On the other hand, we could live in a culture where comics have not been pigeon-holed into "kid's stuff".



I like the Mystery Machine that drives around Lincoln, Nebraska better.

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nsanelilmunky



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I shall raise you Batman in a Lamburghini



And an X-Men racer.

[img]http://www.powerstudios.com.au/image.aspx?S=1&GalleryImage=153_4.jpg[/img]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try to up the maid outfit, but I have to keep reminding myself that Link the Legendary and Nintendo are Japanese Razz

If nothing else, I found a collection great Spiderman pics: link
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^I'm not sure if that's better or worse than what someone did to Darth Vader..

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