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Alien Shores



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Wendy Pini and Colleen Doran?
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Alien Shores



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, and Neal Adams!

This is a great idea, by the way.
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Clint Wolf



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Herriman
Hal Foster
Milton Caniff
Los Bros. Hernandez
Carla Speed McNeill
Dave Sim (yes, he's crazy now but so is John Byrne)
Jim Steranko
Chester Gould
Charles Shulz
Bill Watterson
Walt Kelly

Seconded on Osamu Tezuka. For that matter, Georges Remi/Herge deserves a spot.

Also Winsor McCay
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missing:
Gilbert Shelton
George Metzger
Fred Schrier
Richard Corben
Vaughn Bodē
Lyonel Feininger (Missing him would be a crime, his comic works are really important besides his Bauhaus fame, and the first, maybe even the only serious artist that went into comics)
George Herriman
Crepax
Druillet
Frank Frazetta (actually the founder of all fantasy art as own genre)
Spain Rodriguez
William Gaines & Co
Aley Raymond

and although I don't like Robert Crumb's stories to much, he is to important to be missed.


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Clint Wolf



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot Lee Falk on my list. Every spandex-clad superhero owes a debt to The Ghost Who Walks.
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ewomack
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would add B. Kliban to my list, though he's not for everyone...

Plus, Windsor McCay - especially his "Dream of the Rarebit Fiend."
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Traegorn



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casual Notice wrote:

Added all of the suggestions except Robert Crumb.
Why? He's kind of important.

I'd add Eastman and Laird, just because of their importance in the ownership of character rights

...and how has no one mentioned Bill Finger?
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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Aragones
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Clint Wolf



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This morning I woke up with another name slapping my brain around for not being put forth: Carl Barks.

Carl Barks absolutely should be on the list, especially because (in the U.S. at least) a lot of people don't know who he is, even though they'll all recognize the characters he created. Seems like he's much more known on the world stage than he ever was in the homeland.
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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clint Wolf wrote:
This morning I woke up with another name slapping my brain around for not being put forth: Carl Barks.

Carl Barks absolutely should be on the list, especially because (in the U.S. at least) a lot of people don't know who he is, even though they'll all recognize the characters he created. Seems like he's much more known on the world stage than he ever was in the homeland.


I absolutely second this!
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Uncle Greedy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides those I mentioned above, there are of course

Rand Holmes
Greg Irons
Ted Richards
Jose Gonzales
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Clint Wolf



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no big fan of Crumb's work, but he is an Eisner Hall of Fame inductee and widely regarded as the father of the Underground Comix movement which, despite being made up of a lot of hippies and Harvey Pekar, is at least as much of a chapter in American comics history as the 80s break that led to Vertigo.

Hell, Alan Moore started out doing cheaply published alternative 'zines in the style of Zap! There's an article here that does a good job of sorting through Crumb's impact, which is certainly different than, say, Jack Kirby's...

http://www.killyourdarlingsjournal.com/2011/08/who-is-this-crumb-guy-anyway/

"He wasn’t the very first underground cartoonist (and he was heavily influenced by Harvey Kurtzman’s proto-underground Mad and Help! magazines), but his Zap Comix #1 – released in 1968 – was the match that lit the comix tinderbox, energising a legion of like-minded cartoonists to join the movement...

...Though it lasted less than a decade, the underground movement changed comics forever. It demolished the notion that comics were only for kids, or that they could only deal with juvenile subject matter. Chris Ware has written (in Comments from Contemporaries) that ‘without [Crumb], there wouldn’t be any cartoonists of my generation.’ "


Now as I said, you can like him or dislike him (and his output)... but there's no question he is a Name To Know.
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Clint Wolf



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get that you have a bone to pick with Crumb's fame, if not apparently his entire existence.

I think trying to exclude him from the list of influential figures in comics is insane, but hey, at this point in the thread he's been talked about more than anyone else. I'd rather gush about someone like Herriman or Barks.
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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don Rosa is absolutely fantastic!
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Marscaleb



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, really? You're quick to give lip service to Penny Arcade but you never mentioned Pete Abrams and his comic, Sluggy Freelance?
That comic was the inspiration for half -if not more than- any webcomic that is at least six years old, and dang near everything that started over ten years ago.
That was the comic that established not simply some common trends, but the very idea of what kind of content readers would be interested in. It pioneered the concept that a comic could move from being a simple gag-a-day to having lasting stories that have interest and feeling.

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