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Lack of RL success is sapping my will to draw
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Ann-Cygnus



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Lack of RL success is sapping my will to draw Reply with quote

My comic is getting updated very irregularly these days, because of real life issues.


I've been trying to succeed with certain endeavors (career-wise, voluntary wise, etc.) but no matter what I end up with nothing. This then leads me to want to draw... and then feel bad about it, because I'm not making any money whatsoever from drawing or my webcomic (for which I'm allowing myself to make inconsistencies and mistakes). I also have a blog that I had been working hard on for that past two years, but because of the aforementioned RL issue, it doesn't get updated as much as it used to.


So there's my story... thank you for listening. It was good to let that out.
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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you need help with you comic in any way? I am a big fan, so I maybe I could help.
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Ann-Cygnus



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vaslittlecrow wrote:
Do you need help with you comic in any way? I am a big fan, so I maybe I could help.



You're already helping! ;p The main thing I need help with though, is making sure I actually make it despite life feeling so damn rough of late...

by the by, I sent another pm to you. And while I'm at it, I also want to share some character designs/ideas with you!
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Bill Murphy



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: Lack of RL success is sapping my will to draw Reply with quote

Real Life issues will never go away. It's a side effect of having a real life.

"This then leads me to want to draw... and then feel bad about it, because I'm not making any money whatsoever from drawing or my webcomic"
If creating art makes you happy, you need to focus on the value in that.

"I also have a blog that I had been working hard on for that past two years, but because of the aforementioned RL issue, it doesn't get updated as much as it used to."
Quality not quantity? If real life takes you away from your blog updates, then make sure that everytime you have a chance to update your blog; you make the best, clearest to the point blog that you can write for your readers.


"So there's my story... thank you for listening. It was good to let that out."
expressing your worries with words is a great way to ease your stress.
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ewomack
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everyone here can identify... real life always gets in the way of real real life. Everyone should draw or sculpt or paint or make noise with sticks. The winner take all attitude of western culture makes us think that only certain people are wired to create interesting things. Of course, some are lucky to make a living off of it, but I bet no one is making a GREAT living off of a webcomic. These people have had some form of luck that elevated them up to another level of exposure. They're not as uniquely talented as they seem because great comics exist everywhere.

But you're still drawing and haven't given up. That's the important part. When things go sour in my life I have a very hard time keeping up the comic pace, but if I don't I feel even worse, so I muddle through somehow.

Just keep drawing...
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jorgea



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject: Life Issues Reply with quote

I hope you get things back on track in your life
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Bill Murphy



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many professional webcomics have studios away from their home so that when they are at work, "real life" doesn't step in and pull them away from making their deadlines.
Perhaps find a place where you can work in peace where people won't be disturbing you. A library or a coffe shop (off peak hours) for example.
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Bill Murphy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vulpeslibertas wrote:


Bill Murphy wrote:
Perhaps find a place where you can work in peace where people won't be disturbing you. A library or a coffe shop (off peak hours) for example.
Or even just a corner closet that's "The Comic Only Spot"


My office is a closet. Laughing
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Justinfh



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will never make any money off my Web comic. Not a single penny. Mainly because I can't draw worth a shit. However, I still enjoy what I do. So when I create a new comic strip for a website, it usually puts me in a good mood. Doing creative things gives me a natural high.
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Clint Wolf



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late to this conversation, but I just wanted to support Tara's post here. I've only been at this in any concerted sense for three years compared to her nearly two decade jaunt, but I've still seen my share of webcomic creators burning out. It's often not even a matter of money... they did love their story and wanted to tell it, but ended up feeling like it was too much to juggle and, as a result, the joy was leaching out of the process. And without the joy, what did they have left?

Some folks can handle dealing with life and still produce a comic on a constant basis, but it's not for everyone. Dave Sim forced himself to produce a page a day, every day, because that was his standard for being a professional. Within a few years, Dave Sim had an exhaustion breakdown, not to mention succumbing to permanent semi-insanity with his views on men vs. women. I can't help but think it might have been better for him if he had given himself the option of slowing down.

Keep your health, and keep your happiness, and if you can find the balance there with sharing your creativity with the world, so much the better.
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zeeshan



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, some are lucky to make a living off of it, but I bet no one is making a GREAT living off of a web comic. These people have had some form of luck that elevated them up to another level of exposure.








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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeeshan: I beg to differ. I had a burlesque show based on my webcomics for several years that allowed a very comfortable lifestyle, until I had an career-ending injury. A good friend moved to a beach front apartment (no debt,) because his monthly income from ad revenues and ebooks that he sold on his webcomic site was that substantial. Here's a list of profitable webcomics if you are interested: http://culturepulp.typepad.com/culturepulp/webcomicslecture.html

It's not necessarily luck, though it helps. It's good marketing, good networking and effective merchandising.
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nsanelilmunky



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vaslittlecrow wrote:
http://culturepulp.typepad.com/culturepulp/webcomicslecture.html



That guy pushes that book a little too much. From what I can see, his research is that book, personal experience, and 2 interviews.

He makes good points, but I don't think one book and two interviews is going to give a detailed view of how to 'make it'. There's also the point that making it is subjective. Some people might take making it as making enough money that the site(s) make income instead of taking it. Others take making it as making enough money to live comfortably without having a day job.

If he expanded his research to say 5-10 books and 20-30 interviews, I think it'd have more weight.

Though anyway, your point about there being successful webcomikers very true.
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vaslittlecrow



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsanelilmunky: I realize this. The article was mostly provided to name the comics that have made it without me having to make a redundant post. That is why I also mentioned personal experience, and the experience of a friend. Also, webcomics is an arts field, subject to similar rules of merchandising and multidisciplinary cross-marketing. Historically, it is difficult though not at all impossible to make it in the arts and make an acceptable living. The reason it seems like "no one" is making it, (which is a load of crock,) is the rather unfortunate combination of market over-saturation, and the majority of artists engaging in poor marketing or bad business practices. This is essentially the same problem as that of the music industry's, only in ours most our success stories are not really known outside of the Internet, thus creating even less awareness of those who make it.

wendyw: I am in complete agreement with you! Between $10,000 and $45,000 is what I consider a very comfortable living as a housewife in the country. That's what I was making when I was able to perform and sell merchandise at live events. I am changing my business model to concentrate on recouping the massive loss I took during the last two years that I've had to deal with being disabled and unable to travel extensively.
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