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Shishio
Joined: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 226 Location: Toronto-ish
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: |
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This has probably been said a dozen times but...
Two-dimensional characters.
Since the foundation of a good story is compelling characters, I would say the very worst thing you could do is tell a story about poorly realized characters.
Other than that, I would echo what someone else said (Casual Notice?) and say that cliches are not inherently bad; they make a story bad when they are used improperly.
Good characters (and writers) can use most cliches to good effect.
Fear Agent (it's a print comic) is a good example of a type of story I wouldn't normally enjoy, but despite the prevalence of cliches and other things I consider flaws, Rick Remender makes the book fun enough for me to disregard all that and enjoy it. And that's exactly what a good story should be - enjoyable. _________________
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okram Level 1 threat

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 476 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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f2x

Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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If you don't mind hearing another hypocritical goofball rant from me, here's something I've tended to notice with a lot of amateur comics: The assumption of familiarity.
Established authors (And I know I'm not one of them) can get away with things you can't, because people actually know the characters. Now you may have done a splendid job of creating your character(s) on a profile page, but when I visit your site for the first time, I'm immediately turned off when your current scenario relies on the reader to know or assume a particular character's personality quirks.
See also:
It's funny because she made a thumbs up while winking and grinning.
It's funny because he always does stupid things like that.
If you have to explain it, it's not funny.
Example: Probably my next webcomic. (Sorry, but I'm not a webcomic genius.)
Here's one for the kids at home:
Q:Where does the General keep his armies?
A:In his sleavies!_________________  |
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Murdaugh Postpostpostpostpost!

Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 1433 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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You know what would make a good webcomic, nay, awesome?
One where the main character is a wise-cracking pirate with a sneaky ninja room mate.
The catch? It's not a satire, and it's not bad!
Top that, if you will.  _________________ S*P*Q*R |
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hajrarara

Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 114 Location: .ba
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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haahaha and one has a girlfriend who is, in fact - a MONKEY! _________________  |
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Azraelle

Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 162 Location: Around here somehwere ...
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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a monkey ... who plays video games! _________________  |
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mirz

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 524 Location: Near Chicago
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kismetropolis

Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 29 Location: Marietta, GA
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Murdaugh Postpostpostpostpost!

Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 1433 Location: Europe
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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When I did a guest comic, I had two original sketches. I chose one of them, but could've just as easily done two guest comics, since they were part of their own self-contained mini-arc.
I think what kismetropolis says is right, which makes it harder to draw for someone you don't know, or someone with a large archive. _________________ S*P*Q*R |
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Nismorack
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 415 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thing about guest comics, and this may sound 'silly'. It's not what the reader signed up for.
Even though your comic is 'free'. People read it because they like your comic. If someone else comes along and draws it differently then most readers won't like it.
An artist will 'love' someone else doing a take on their characters and stories. But the guestartist will always do it 'different', and not all readers will like it.
Personally I tend to skip them. Even the stick figure ones in sluggy I skip. (Yes I read sluggy)
As for the general use of cliches. Sometimes they can be used right, but more often they're used wrong. Which is why not everybody likes them. Simply put: If it works for your comic and people like it, then it's probably okay. |
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NobbyNobody

Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 678 Location: England
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Oh it's old polymer nuts again.
Argh. _________________  |
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austenandrews

Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 335 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I swear the gal in the top row is a Real Doll.
Though I confess, while I can do without the android sex, I kind of like the randomly bumped threads from before I joined. _________________ Gordian Algebra |
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