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I have an idea and I would like to hear your opinion~

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: I have an idea and I would like to hear your opinion~ Reply with quote

O hai people, I am new to this forum, so don't kill me if I do something wrong.
Anyways, I really want to make a webcomic and I have this basic fantasy/sci-fi kind of idea to start out with, but I would like some tips and constructive criticism first.

A gang, or guild, you could say, of thieves, are stealing their way up to wealth. ( About 20 members, not sure if I wan't them to be entirely selfish or include some kind of Robin Hood heroism. )
Nobody knows their real identity, not even the members, ( Because they are all weraing masks, or because they are ninjas. ) except for a few members (5-7 members) in the inner circle.
One day, one of them discorvers a big secret.

It is widely known that their society used to have magical powers, and could travel the astral on free will (I would include more "scientific facts" on this), not much generations ago.
Now they are only a few left with magical powers (5-10%) , and their society have replaced the magic with technology.

But, one of the thieves in the inner circle discover the cause for their societys loss of magic, wich turns out to be a government conspiracy to gain more power and control.

Soon enough, the government finds out that their secret has been leaked, and the thieves are more hunted than ever before.
They send out an spy to pose as a new member to their gang. (this part is not quite clear yet)
One of the thieves finds out that this new member is a spy, but keeps the secret because of selfish reasons.
Now this spy will have to work the way up to the inner circle to find out the thieves identity.

At the same time the inner circle is doing more research on the conspiracy business and argue on how to use their knowledge. (should they keep the secret or should they do the right thing to disclose it to the people, and risk being caught.)
But soon they discover that the government is close onto them and realise that one among them have leaked information about their organisation.
But now this spy begins to feel for the thieves, and is not sure on how to play the game anymore.

They eventually find out that this new member is working fo the government, but they are convinced that the spy is on their sides now.
Now they have to flee the government and the spy is helping them.

With the help of a crazy scientist they travel through the astral to flee into another world, (this gives me full freedom to create whatever worlds I want while remaining somewhat logical) but now an even bigger and darker and far more dangerous secret is discovered (no idea what), while the government is close behind their heels.

Main characters would be one of the thieves in the inner circle and the spy, I wan't the thief to be a male and the main idea so far is that the spy is female.

I love somewhat weird and quirky characters, so if you have an idea on a quirky characteristic (like a character who only wears red, or someone who always has 2 spoons in her bra) please tell me.

Keep in mind that I am an artist and I trust my art, so that is not a problem. I am also very creative and like wierd and wicked stuff, and I absolutely LOVE to confuse people. So if I made this comic it would mainly be something weird and random, but with a clear plot to build it on. And this is the idea I want to start out with, and I figure it will be further developed while I make the comic.

So umm, what do you think? Would you read this? Why/ why not? What is good/what is bad with my idea? Should I do something different?

Please comment and don't be a jerk. C:
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, a huge thanks for the reply!

Kail wrote:
This makes it seem like you don't know what exactly is going on with the story, making it up as you go along. That can work sometimes (like in Lost or The X-Files) but I'm not exactly familiar with how you write things like that, so my criticism might not be valid.

Yeah, I see what you mean. But I am more comfortable with writing that way, it feels more natural to me as I get to know the characters better while I write and can see a clear development, and keep the story going. However I would of course still have an rough idea of where the story is going if I would start out on this.

Kail wrote:
The main thing I'd be concerned with is that this will make it hard to come up with believable antagonists. You probably don't want your government characters to come off as moustache-twirling evil stereotypes, but if you don't know why they're doing the stuff they're doing, it can be hard to portray them as rational.

I've been thinking about that, and I agree with you. I really do not want the government guys to be like "pure evil moahahaha", but more "we have legitimate reasons for things and not all of us are the same".
I will further develop this part and try to portray them more realistically.

Kail wrote:
Twenty seems like a lot of characters to keep track of... why so many? Do you have twenty character ideas, or just want a big group? I'd focus more on two or three central characters than a massive cast of extras. Right now the only character idea I'm seeing in this synopsis is the heel-face turning spy character.

I don't intend all of them to be important to the plot, I just picked 20 because it would seem logical to this kind of gang or guild to have around 20 members, but I can narrow it down. There is two main characters, as already stated: one of the thiefs in the inner circle. He is very respected by the others. The thiefs don't have a leader, but if they did, it would be him. And of course the spy. (I've been thinking about a romance between those two, or is that kliche?) Then there are a few important characters in the guild and the government conspirators. The rest of the thieves are not important. But I can imagine too much characters could be confusing to the reader.
More avice on this is much appreciated.

Again thank you very much for the reply!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first impression is that it could turn out to be a very interesting story, readable and interesting.

If you want to create character driven plots though, in my opinion you should prevent to complicate things to much or you will be to busy telling the story and don't have any time left fleshing out the characters and their quirks.

(maybe you should forget about the even bigger darker secret and stick with them finally escaping the government, so you have more time to tell the reader about the intrigue between and growth of the characters)
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