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[NaarieKermie]

rocketpig wrote:

And Teddy Roosevelt just rocked. One of the most under-appreciated Presidents the US has had in its time.

Except on Cracked.com They love them some Roosevelt on Cracked.
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[smbhax.com]

Dude's on Mt. Rushmore. I dunno if he's all that under-appreciated!
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[rocketpig]

smbhax.com wrote:

Dude's on Mt. Rushmore. I dunno if he's all that under-appreciated!

He was a last minute addition (originally, only three Presidents were to make Rushmore but the landscape of the hill almost mandated a fourth) and made it primarily because of his work with conservationism (his creation of the National Park Service) and he was fresh in everyone's mind (most people alive at that point remembered his Presidency). Otherwise, he wouldn't be there.
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[smbhax.com]

Well I don't know if it matters much now why he got in (although that is interesting). I mean, I don't know much about US presidents, but he's one of the ones I do know of!
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[Dutch]

Yeah. If he wasn't put up there because he decided himself that he had to be up there, then he must have done something worthy of getting his mug on the mountain, eh? Props for that, at least!
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[rocketpig]

Oh, he was definitely a note-worthy President, I'm just saying that he doesn't really have the longevity of a Washington, Lincoln, or later, even FDR.

Hell, most people know more about Kennedy than Teddy Roosevelt, which is kind of silly because Kennedy's most famous political move was a bullet to the face. Not that I'm bashing Kennedy, the Bay of Pigs and his hard push for the space race was pretty big stuff (he also bungled Iraq, which we still get to suffer through today) but he wasn't President for long enough to have that much of an impact.
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[Casual Notice]

Roosevelt did the one thing that modern Republicans are afraid to do. He took the big stick and started enforcing the anti-trust laws that had been passed in previous generations, then got congress to add a few more. As many of our economic ills can be traced to the existence of monolithic oligopolies who have no fear of real competition in the marketplace as can be attributed to any other factor.
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[rocketpig]

Casual Notice wrote:

Roosevelt did the one thing that modern Republicans are afraid to do. He took the big stick and started enforcing the anti-trust laws that had been passed in previous generations, then got congress to add a few more. As many of our economic ills can be traced to the existence of monolithic oligopolies who have no fear of real competition in the marketplace as can be attributed to any other factor.

Yep, Roosevelt could never be elected today. He's too much of an individualist for the Democrats and he'd be labeled a business-hating, tree-hugging hippy by Republicans.

And that's too damned bad because this country could really use someone with the fire, progressive thought, determination, and intelligence of a Teddy Roosevelt.
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[afterthedream]

Here's another hilarious take on Miller:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vSF3dgEUst8/TsO3IcGxz9I/AAAAAAAACCY/1ILvMhWIm9A/s1600/burning_itch_11162011_pace_burningmonster.jpg

[Kallisti]

rocketpig wrote:

Yep, Roosevelt could never be elected today. He's too much of an individualist for the Democrats and he'd be labeled a business-hating, tree-hugging hippy by Republicans. And that's too damned bad because this country could really use someone with the fire, progressive thought, determination, and intelligence of a Teddy Roosevelt.

Then again, Ronald Reagan couldn't be elected as a Republican in this day and age either. That's because was conservative, but not a Conservative.
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[Casual Notice]

Kallisti wrote:

rocketpig wrote: Yep, Roosevelt could never be elected today. He's too much of an individualist for the Democrats and he'd be labeled a business-hating, tree-hugging hippy by Republicans. And that's too damned bad because this country could really use someone with the fire, progressive thought, determination, and intelligence of a Teddy Roosevelt. Then again, Ronald Reagan couldn't be elected as a Republican in this day and age either. That's because was conservative, but not a Conservative.

Reagan wasn't supposed to be electable in 1980. The main difference is that then, the Republican Party was honest enough that they put the party's power behind the legitimate winner of their primary elections. That flew out the window in 2010, when the party (elite) ACTIVELY opposed their own slected (by the members) candidates in at least two elections.
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[afterthedream]

Good news everyone...

Just ten minutes ago I ran into Scott Olsen in downtown Oakland. It's his first day back on the scene, and he seems to be doing quite well. He's wearing a neck brace but he gets around and is talking perfectly fine. And I say if he's rebounded from the crackdown on the Occupy movement, the rest of us can rebound and rebuild camps that are better than ever.

[Casual Notice]

Speaking for the actual 99%, we'd rather you didn't. Perhaps you could try legitimate avenues of change, rather than squatting in public parks and "occupying" Burger Kings.
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[afterthedream]

Casual Notice wrote:

Speaking for the actual 99%, we'd rather you didn't. Perhaps you could try legitimate avenues of change, rather than squatting in public parks and "occupying" Burger Kings.

LMAO. You speak for the 99% now do you? Ego-maniacal much?

[Casual Notice]

Being a middle-aged employed person with a family income right at the national average, one who has served in the military and has been actually poor, I think I can do as good a job of doing so as a few thousand priveleged kids who think living with their parents is the same as being homeless.
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