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[quote="Kallisti"]I'm for this on a general basis... when/if it is approved, I'd push for a limited number of categories, probably something below 10. I think the unlimited category field is a bad idea, just due to the fact that arguably every comic could eventually narrow itself down to such a small sub-sub-subset of categories that we'd have to give everyone an award. An idea does occur to me - since this is the TWCL Award... we could always use the genre categories TWCL uses to define what awards we give. We might want to remove/combine a couple of them... but it's still a starting point. They (for those who don't venture much off the forum) are: Fantasy, Furry, Gaming, Geeky, Manga, Mature, Quirky, Sci-Fi, Weird, Workplace, Genre-less I know that this isn't the time or place to debate *which* categories we do, I'm just throwing this out as a possible comprimise as an idea for those deciding on whether they're for this or not.[/quote]
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jdalton
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:42 am
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elissarose wrote:
On the other hand, this being what it is, there is certain to be someone who feels they've been left out anyway.
True, but I think with the addition of some genre categories more people will feel left
in
. As a suggested rule (however many genres, if any, are decided on), you could say that a given comic cannot be eligible in two genre categories. Someone has to pick one or the other.
elissarose
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:11 pm
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On the other hand, this being what it is, there is certain to be someone who feels they've been left out anyway.
NekoMusume
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:43 pm
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I do feel that this would be most unmanageable and if one were to have this genre divided system, how many and what ones?
I mean, if we have too many the whole idea becomes a unmanageable and if we have to little, you will have someone arguing that they have been left out.
Kallisti
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:40 am
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I'm for this on a general basis... when/if it is approved, I'd push for a limited number of categories, probably something below 10. I think the unlimited category field is a bad idea, just due to the fact that arguably every comic could eventually narrow itself down to such a small sub-sub-subset of categories that we'd have to give everyone an award.
An idea does occur to me - since this is the TWCL Award... we could always use the genre categories TWCL uses to define what awards we give. We might want to remove/combine a couple of them... but it's still a starting point. They (for those who don't venture much off the forum) are:
Fantasy, Furry, Gaming, Geeky, Manga, Mature, Quirky, Sci-Fi, Weird, Workplace, Genre-less
I know that this isn't the time or place to debate *which* categories we do, I'm just throwing this out as a possible comprimise as an idea for those deciding on whether they're for this or not.
elissarose
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:20 pm
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I wish there was some standard genre thing out there somewhere. In the 90s people gave up on music genres and called everything "Alternative"
I think Senshuu is right!
LukeSurl
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:30 pm
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We're already doing Best Story Comic + Best Humour Comic (by some title or other).
Very broad categories will just overlap with those. Narrow categories (i.e. the genres as traditionally defined), and we're going to need to double the number of awards.
KEZ
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:23 pm
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For HUGE genres, we could do fiction, comedy, drama, horror and non-fiction/autobiographical. Could even narrow that down to fiction, comedy and non-fiction/autobio.
Metruis
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:23 am
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I think we should have genre awards, as, let's face it, a fantasy comic is very different from a slice-of-life comic which is very different from a gamer comic... etc... and it gives more exposure to these types of comics.
elissarose
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:12 am
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If it's all or nothing then I'd say do nothing. However, does anyone have any idea of a way where we could do some but not none and not all? Senshuu, why do you think it should be all or none? I'm curious.
Miluette
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:03 am
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All or nothing.
Genres that could broadly cover 95% of comics, or no genre awards at all. Not just a few genres. All of them, or none of them.
Lavenderbard
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:46 am
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jdalton wrote:
They should be big genres, though. So there's not too many of them. Sci-fi and fantasy could be lumped together, for example, or slice-of-life and romance. You could have speculative fiction (sci-fi, fantasy, horror), realistic fiction (slice-of-life, drama, romance, historical), non-fiction (journalism, auto-bio), comedy, geeky (gaming, pop culture based, etc.), and action. That should cover just about everything.
And, um, if I'm doing science fiction romance with lots of action, my comic is eligible to be nominated for three different categories?
jdalton
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:22 pm
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I vote yes. One of the problems with the WCCAs was always that a small number of comics would show up in every award category. Only when they had genre awards did other comics actually had a chance to get in.
They should be big genres, though. So there's not too many of them. Sci-fi and fantasy could be lumped together, for example, or slice-of-life and romance. You could have speculative fiction (sci-fi, fantasy, horror), realistic fiction (slice-of-life, drama, romance, historical), non-fiction (journalism, auto-bio), comedy, geeky (gaming, pop culture based, etc.), and action. That should cover just about everything.
wendyw
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:50 pm
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The poll is now live.
wendyw
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:55 pm
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I'm going through the options for what Sunday's polls will be and this is a more complex one than most.
The first poll for this one will be a simple Yes/No question and if people do vote to have genre options we'll then have to work out afterwards what those genres would be.
Is everybody happy with the preliminary Yes/No stage?
jynksie
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:31 am
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I have to admit, I was FOR genre awards, but only the most popular ones. My thought was limiting it to the 5 most popular genres, but then getting agreement on what those are, might prove harder than the idea itself. So, if the trend here continues to be a -no- on this, majority does rule!
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